Imus' comments hit close to home
For the record, I've appeared on the Imus Show as a reporter here at NBC News. I have relatives who graduated from Rutgers University. And, before it started disappearing, I had short, and rather tightly curled, hair -- so all of this is hitting very close to home.
I've heard Imus apologize, a few times. He sounds sincere. I understand he wants to meet the Rutgers team. He'll be on Al Sharpton's radio show.
But I still can't forget those words: "nappy headed hos," and then more banter about "jigaboos and wannabes." Where did that come from? How could Imus -- and don't forget his producer -- feel comfortable enough to think that's funny? How could they not anticipate a firestorm? When people speak that way publicly, it makes you wonder what's said, and felt, in private?
If you say the words out loud rather than just listening to them or reading them, each carries even more power. And they strike at the heart of the negative images that so many people have fought so many battles to rid our culture and society of. When I hear those words, I think of people I know -- the insults they endured, and more importantly, the injustices along the way. We're reminded that some of America's most horrible history -- history we hope to leave in our past -- happened during our lifetimes. We're reminded of parents and grandparents who combed and brushed our tightly curled hair.
Clearly, an apology hasn't made all of this go away. Something more has to happen, and is happening. I think some of the media companies trying to keep their distance now realize they remain tainted. I believe many here where I work will do the right thing. It is being taken extremely seriously. One dilemma is that many of the country's most influential decision makers seek out Imus, appear regularly on his show, relish the platform he provides in morning drive time. So far, many of those powerful voices remain silent.
So what do you do when a significant, powerful institution and corporate interest crashes into what many see as profound issues of morality and decency? What's reasonable, fair and just? Honestly, I don't know the answer. I'm encouraged by the fact that people in positions of power are listening to what a lot of folks out there have to say. Perhaps Imus and his producer should take a break while all this works itself out.
Some people have pointed out he's hurled slurs at everyone during the years. He's a "shock jock," and everyone knows he's edgy. Personally, I don't think being an "equal opportunity " insulter makes this OK.
Ultimately, this is more important than one radio talk-show host. It's important because the "mainstream media" has a tremendous influence on how we see each other, how we think of ourselves, how we determine what's acceptable and what's not. Organizations such as the National Association of Black Journalists and other advocates for diversity have long argued that if America's newsrooms looked like America -- if the faces we see on the air, behind the scenes, and in the management suites -- looked, thought and had sensitivities and experiences more like everyone, the culture inside these institutions would be much different.
And so would what's considered to be a joke.
Think of how you'd explain this to a young little girl, with tightly curled hair, when she asks, "why did he call people who look like me that?"
Something more has to happen. Not just with one individual, but also with the environment that produces all of this. Something that people in power can look back on a few years from now and tell that little girl that we tried very hard to do the right thing.
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I hadn't heard the comments that Imus had made about the Rutgers team until today and was not only outraged but hurt for the players on the team. People who listen to Imus seem to feel that what he said was okay because he always speaks like this. Just because a racist is a racist doesn't make it okay. As long as people like Imus are allowed to spew forth their bigotry to the general public and people say it's okay, we will continue to hear comments like these from others of his ilk. A two week suspension is no where near the punishment he should face. Shame on you MSNBC and CBS for supporting racists views. I won't ever watch Imus and as long as CBS and MSNBC continue to support a racist, I will not watch nor nolonger support CBS and MSNBC and will strongly urge family members and friends to do the same. Fire him.
TS, Seattle, WA (Sent Apr 9, 2007 9:12:51 PM)
Don Imus is not a racist...not sure about Bernard. I have often thought that they went way over the line with personal comments about people, but my husband and I love listening to Imus in the morning for everything else he says. We can't stand the thought of him getting fired. He does so much good and his humor is just a reflection of the society in which we live. He brings attention to important issues as no one else in America does. I guess the "I" man will find out who his REAL friends are. Is he a perfect person...no, but none of us are. Criticize him, suspend him for a week or two if necessary, but as James Brown would say...please, please, please don't fire him.
C & P of Chattanooga, Tennessee (Sent Apr 9, 2007 9:10:33 PM)
I don't see why he is above punishment. Yes there is free speech, but as most adults know, free speech has consequences. In most workplaces, constant insults and or bullying of a coworker is punishable. Degrading people is not okay. The fact Imus owns a ranch and insults others doesn't take away from the fact that he made a racist statement.
Xae, Chicago, Illinois (Sent Apr 9, 2007 9:10:02 PM)
How does this poor joke by Imus make him an unredeemable social pariah in Sharpton's eyes? Michael Richards appeared on Sharpton after launching numerous N-bombs in a full-blast torrent of racial venom, and Sharpton was quick to embrace TV's Kramer as redeemable. Whatever happened to using these incidents to bring greater understanding of insensitivity, and thus reach some kind of detente (if not rapprochement) between the races?
There is a difference between penance and punishment; penance is followed by forgiveness. I fear Reverend Jackson & Reverend Sharpton are too quick to advocate punishment for Imus without allowing the opportunity for redemption. A house of tolerance cannot stand when built upon a foundation of vengeance & retribution. Firing Imus would be nothing more than an act borne out of anger, left unchecked by reason and moderation.
D.J., Madison, WI (Sent Apr 9, 2007 9:09:24 PM)
First of all...everybody on here should remember that Imus, sharpton, or any of the other names bantered about does not put food on your table nor clothes on your back. For anyone to be individually insulted should only be if they said something on your front lawn, about you. Why do "you people" ,meaning anyone who watches, listens or hears anyone in the media and entertainment, who's job is to stimulate on some level, allow peoples words to frustrate your everyday life. Stop hating or believing everything said by everybody, meant as entertainment, to stimulate, and then take it so personally! If something offends you, turn it off, don't listen or watch! If Rap music or ignorance by anyone offends your senses, don't let it in your life or your children. Take control of your surroundings and happiness! If you can't tear yourself away, you are just a misquito drawn to the bug zapper called life.
I for one refuse to give anyone this much power, much less people who are paid large sums of money to do so and then get bent out of shape defending or hating them for doing it. Be true to thyself, be responsable for your own actions( a lost art indeed) and family and stop letting idiots in every mode of entertainment have the power to make you so angry. I for one find it ten times more offensive by what Rosie O'Donnell said, out and out accusing the president of murdering 3 thousand people, just because she can't control her hate for Bush. I find it insulting and irresponsible as an American, not politically. The reason this insults me is that innocent people died and to hate anyone, much less the president, so much to falsely accuse them of murdering is sick and does not deserve to have any platform. I pity her more then I hate her!
My options..... spew hate, blame the messenger(ABC and disney) or decide and then control how what she says truly effects my ability to be happy in life?? My children, how they reflect me and my responsiblities towards them and the way they treat others are much more important then whatever ignorance conjered up by Rosie,Imus, Sharton or any of the talking heads we want to look up too for some reason. Grow up people and turn your energies inward instead of outward and maybe, just maybe, you'll find that what others say don't really carry that much weight after all.
Kenny L. Charlotte, N.C. (Sent Apr 9, 2007 9:08:15 PM)
I am really sick & tired of the Imus story.....enough already!
So he said something bad and it might have offended some people. He also has said he is sorry!
As far as I'm concerned Jackson & Sharpton need to get over themselves and just shut up. And they won't until they get their PAY-OFF, it's what they do all the time. Why aren't they mad about the rappers who call women Bitches & Ho's? They use situations like this to insight and anger and then threaten to boycott, and as soon as the check comes they shut up and go away until the next time they are offened or should I say until the next money-making hissy-fit comes along. I'd like to know, just what do they do with all of the hold-up money they get?
Do they provide a camp for very sick kids to attend free of charge......I DON'T THINK SO! I also feel sorry for MSNBC & Steve Capus, they don't have the GUTS to stand up to these two "men of God". By the way, Aren't men of God suppose to turn the other cheek and forgive?
With Jackson & Sharpton that depends on how big the check turns out to be!
As for the two weeks Imus will be off the air....I am just wondering which rehab MSNBC will want him to attend....lol
Hang in there Don!
JC Rogers, Fayetteville, NC (Sent Apr 9, 2007 9:07:36 PM)
I don't get it. With all of the atrocities happening all around us...mainly those coming directly from the White House...how can one man's mistake cause such a fury of outrageous demands by Big Al and "if there is a controvery, I am there" Jesse?
Where were Big Al and Jesse when all the people were left standed and abandoned by the government at the Superdome and Convention Center in New Orleans after Hurricane Katrina? Where was their outrage? Imus called more attention to that than either of those clowns did.
Sharpton and Jackson surely do exhault themselves into making others believe that they speak for everyone. Did I miss a vote on this? Let me decide for myself who and what offends me. When someone offends a white person, I don't recall seeing the Pope jump up and demand action to be taken, or the head of the Baptist, Methodist, Episcopal, Seventh Day Adventist, Mormons...well, you get the picture.
Are Sharpton and Jackson implying that blacks are too stupid to decide for themselves whether or not they have been offended? Again I ask, when will the black community ask these two to sit down and shut up; they are an embarassment and tend to make others feel that the poor ole black folk are not educated enough to speak for themselves.
Finally, to the powers that be. It is high time you stop letting these two clowns dictate your policy. I realize there are limits; however, in the context of the nature of the Imus show this is none of Sharpton and Jackson's business.
Personally, I would like to see Imus just SNAP on all of those hypocrites. Then again, those comments would probably be actionable.
Let it be remembered, the lyrics contained in rap music cannot even be aired on MSNBC or CBS radio. When will Sharpton and Jackson weigh in on that?
Now Sharpton states that it is time that MSNBC hire more black pundits. How does this relate to the issue at hand? It doesn't and that is the whole point; or, does it appear that Sharpton is trying to get his own show on MSNBC? Hmmm, now it is all coming together.
Dan Abrams, be a man, tell them that you appreciate their comments embraced in the first amendment, just as you embrace Imus' first amendment rights. Now, that is EQUAL RIGHTS and I thought that was what it was all about. Same rights for blacks and whites and everyone else, even Sharpton and Jackson.
SG, Tampa FL (Sent Apr 9, 2007 9:03:32 PM)
Just for a second. Would you want your college student daughter called a "nappy headed ho"?
Roger Scott (Sent Apr 9, 2007 9:02:28 PM)
I think they did the right by suspended Imus for calling the Rutgers University Team for saying they are nappy headed ho's. BUT I do not find these word at any all racist word. He didn't used the word Blacks or Nigger the N, word. Why would anyone think they was racist word only Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson would think that. But it okay went Al Sharpton and Jackson go around calling NY Cop killer for shooting some drug dealer or whatever they are doing to cause the cop to put out thier guns don't see or hear Sharpton or Jackson saying anythings about went their people meaning the Blacks people went some black man go around shooting a cop or went a black man rape a white woman that okay those right. They said there are only eight blacks girls on the team So the rest are white girls So he would be call the white Girls ho's too so how is that a Racist word?. He should not be fired. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson should be fired.
John, Middletown New Jersey (Sent Apr 9, 2007 8:59:47 PM)
I am a 57 year old woman. I grew up with three brothers. My husband is a retired firefighter. I LOVE locker room humor. There is nothing quite like it. The humor is very often in the "cringes" of recognition we feel. It's my turn to cringe when the guys on the show are talking about overweight women. But it is HUMOR, folks. I love his show. I know lots of people that don't care for Imus, and I'm alright with that. No one has to listen or watch. But he clearly has an immense fan base.
Imus went too far last Wednesday, and he is doing all the right things to apologize.
I have actually worried that Imus' program was changing too much: he has become obsessed with making wonderful, positive and healing things happen for the sick (his cancer kids, autistic children and their families), and the neglected injured (Iraqi war veterans). There are not a lot of laughs in those noble endeavors, but you can see that he is committed. regardless of how it affects his show's ratings, to helping create a better life for those who can't make it happen for themselves.
THIS MAN DESERVES OUR FORGIVENESS.
Debra Fadely, Vicksburg, MI (Sent Apr 9, 2007 8:58:52 PM)
This was like calling someone a hippy in the 70's
Imus I assume was trying to be hip and funny with his comment, almost all kids myspace pages refer to girls as hos, INCLUDING GIRLS CALLING THEMSELVES HOS.
Why is Imus allowed to be a comic and now he has to be politically correct, freedom of speech? And if your CEO finds this offensive, what about all the sexual content on tv in prime time on cbs, thats not offensive? No that seems to be hip, the language Imus used is hip for the teens and young adults today.
If this was 1900 it might have been really offensive, this is 2007 and 99% of people who want to act gangsta use this language. Where the students really offended? Before they answer that, look at there myspace pages for an honest answer.
This is like calling someone a hippy in the 70's, NBC and CBS need to get a grip.
This was not racism, al sharpton and others use this for financial gain, that should be the story here.
BET TV runs shows all the time that rip into white people calling them crackers, and even one show that says white people can't play basketball? Where is Al? Where is Al to boycott Hip hop for calling all gurls hos, guys pimps, etc?
Just look at the rutgers students myspace pages. Why does journalists act like this is something that should be shown on the evening news.
It is offensive to call someone a ho, whcih is common 'hip' language for teens. But when we invaded a country for the wrong reason, got the leader hung, and continue to get our own boys killed, thats not offensive?
Please stop pandering and investigate these 'racism fraud' claims,
(Sent Apr 9, 2007 8:58:44 PM)
I will miss Don Imus for the next few weeks. BUT, I do believe he crossed the line this time. Attacking public figures and politicians is one thing and in my opinion, fair game. The young women from Rutgers are private citizens who worked hard and almost won it all in a public arena... but that doesn't make them fair game for the Imus show and a mean-spirited, personal attack. FOUL, Don Imus. Whether unintentional or intentional still a FOUL.
I believe, Imus, didn't understand how deep the knife struck with that rant. No, it wasn't FUNNY. As a proud Black woman who has chosen for years to wear my hair in its natural state... tightly curled, or as you would say "nappy"... I can on say and have always said, I'm happy to be nappy. But, I'm NOT pleased to hear a young educated woman, who is achieving and succeeding at the highest levels of competition, called a "Ho". They too are, and should be, considered successful Black Women; not "jiggaboos or wannabees".
I believe, Mr. Imus has been warned before about his rants. Thank you, MSNBC and CBS for taking disciplinary action and suspending Imus and I hope Bernard for 2 weeks this time. The 2nd step in progressive discipline, Step 3 should be "goodbye".
And I hope it never gets to that stage.
Hap E, Johns Island, SC (Sent Apr 9, 2007 8:58:23 PM)
Much to about nothing, if Sahrpton and Jesse Jackson would put that much energy about things that matter, like taking care of wounded vets, they would be better off as an example. Are they shaking down Imus?
What about the View should that be closed down as well. To much political correctness will kill this country. What happen with these reverends on forgivness? I hope they get real jobs soon.
Manny, MA (Sent Apr 9, 2007 8:58:13 PM)
Don Imus must set an example for treating all peoples the same irregardless of race, sex, economic level, orientation, education, physical attributes.
Rev. Al Sharpton and Rev. Jesse Jackson must set an example for the way to treat people who have erred, sinned and proved beyond doubt that they are human.
Imus In the Morning must continue. It is a show that does warrant my attention both by watching and listening. It is so much more interesting than a person(s) reading from a prepared script mimmicing a telepromter.
J.E.H. (Sent Apr 9, 2007 8:56:45 PM)
Don Imus is human and made a mistake. He has something on most of the rest of us though--the heart of a cowboy. Viva Imus.
Tim Lee, Knoxville, Tennessee (Sent Apr 9, 2007 8:53:52 PM)
It's a shame that there are people in the world who think that what Don and Imus said is not sufficient to warrant their dismissal. To me the fact that Imus' producer was comfortable enough to make that comment on air and that Imus didn't reel him in speaks volumes. Imagine that was your child they were talking about. Would you be so quick to tell your daughter not be so thin skinned or question whether she could take a joke? Words such as those uttered by Mel Gibson, Kramer, Isiah Washington and Imus are offensive and degrading no matter who they refer to.
(Sent Apr 9, 2007 8:53:46 PM)
I think he must go, If he gets away with his comment this time, There's no telling what will come out of his mouth the next time!!My aunt used to say "If you play with a pup it will lick you in the mouth everytime" I will boycott MSNBC
Mother of a future nappie headed ho, Charlotte, NC (Sent Apr 9, 2007 8:52:31 PM)
I will miss Don Imus for the next few weeks. BUT, I do believe he crossed the line this time. Attacking public figures and politicians is one thing and in my opinion, fair game. The young women from Rutgers are private citizens who worked hard and almost won it all in a public arena... but that doesn't make them fair game for the Imus show and a mean-spirited, personal attack. FOUL, Don Imus. Whether unintentional or intentional still a FOUL.
I believe, Imus, didn't understand how deep the knife struck with that rant. No, it wasn't FUNNY. As a proud Black woman who has chosen for years to wear my hair in its natural state... tightly curled, or as you would say "nappy"... I can on say and have always said, I'm happy to be nappy. But, I'm NOT pleased to hear a young educated woman, who is achieving and succeeding at the highest levels of competition, called a "Ho". They too are, and should be, considered successful Black Women; not "jiggaboos or wannabees".
I believe, Mr. Imus has been warned before about his rants. Thank you, MSNBC and CBS for taking disciplinary action and suspending Imus and I hope Bernard for 2 weeks this time. The 2nd step in progressive discipline, Step 3 should be "goodbye".
And I hope it never gets to that stage.
(Sent Apr 9, 2007 8:51:09 PM)
It was so unfortunate that Imus' comments were made in regards to young African American women who have worked so hard to get to the place that they have by a man that has done so much good for so many. My sense of listening to his show over the years is that Imus has been able to have a meeting of minds with a diverse range of people. His comments were as he said "bad" made by a "good person". Who of us has not said and done things that we regret and wish we could have as a "do over". But here is the thing, by suspending Imus I think that MSNBC is missing an opportunity to lead the nation in a dialog that addresses the unspoken shame of this nation - our broken race relations. Please bring him back.
Carolyn Ann Arbor, MI (Sent Apr 9, 2007 8:51:00 PM)
Unless you are an African American,you are not going to understand how it feels to hear this sort of language directed at you. The issue is that he said these things on FCC regulated airwaves. The FCC has decency standards; free speech does not apply to this instance. I should never turn on the radio or TV in my household and feel as disgusted as I did when I heard these remarks. That is what the FCC is supposed to protect against. If one wants to speak about any ethnic group in any manner, one is free to do so, just not on FCC (and taxpayer, I might add) airtime. And, for the record: many people think that the language used in much of today's hip hop music absolves anyone who wants to say whatever about Black women--know this: it doesn't matter who says it, be it the N word or the B word, its wrong. The reason why this is perpetrated in hip hop is because the real power in the music industry does not belong to these uneducated ignorant artists (and that includes you, Kanye), but to the producers and executives. Black people are not purchasing most hip hop music-most is purchased by white kids, who of course, don't mind these type of lyrics. And yes, there has been lots of outcry, but since when did white Americans listen to Black people without a gun pointed in their faces?
(Sent Apr 9, 2007 8:48:25 PM)
Maybe Imus should not have said what he did, but Al Sharpton needs to tend to his own race. Go after all the black rappers that sing about black and white women and constantly degrade them. I've worked with teenagers for years and they worship the dispicable lyrics in these "songs". Listen to the young people and how they talk about their own. I pray the next time a black says something degrading about a caucasion that there is this much outcry in the public and lets put the attention back on the people that believe they are the only ones who are ever done wrong. Open your eyes and see all the injustices in the world. Do you know if I'm black or caucasion or polk-a-dotted? No. Get over it. You want everyone to be treated equally. Well, I don't believe that there are any slave owners in the U.S. anymore. I suspect that Al enjoys all the money and comforts afforded him. Where else except America could you find these. Let Imus do his apologizing to the girls and keep your nose where it belongs. Preaching love and peace and forgiving to everyone, including Imus. The good he has done outweighs an ignorant comment........or maybe you have never made one?
(Sent Apr 9, 2007 8:46:58 PM)
this is ridiculous -it would be onething if Imus lwas a polite, quiet commentator - but he isn't lhe is irreverent toward everyone - Bush, John Kerry, Tim Russet etc - that's why people watch him -[ he says it the way he thinks it is - no spin - REeverent Sharpton should spend 1/10th of his time doing some of the good lmus does - I am Irish Catholic - have been called a dumb mick - a papist - so what -
Sharpton ;should do something about the Black rappers and what they say about Black women -
Mary Walsh =- Cambridge, Ma (Sent Apr 9, 2007 8:44:32 PM)
MSNBC made a big mistake cancelling Imus for 2 weeks. Don made a mistake. He is not a racist. He apologized more than needed. And then you drop him? You have no backbone or values. Well I drop you.
(Sent Apr 9, 2007 8:42:46 PM)
Imus doesn't look well.He appears old ,tired & senile. His lack of judgement & the idea he thought he could get by with such hurtful ugly words makes my point.He clearly doesn't understand and should be removed.Who in their right mind wants to have an abuser of young girls with a show to do it on?
(Sent Apr 9, 2007 8:41:52 PM)
Imus went too far and now he's trying to save his job. Pathetic!
Cedar Rapids Iowa (Sent Apr 9, 2007 8:41:27 PM)
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