Taliban in our sights -- an update
I received an urgent request from a U.S. Army colonel via e-mail this morning. He said that the surveillance photo I included in my blog post yesterday of Taliban members gathered at a funeral in Afghanistan should not have been released, even though I was told by others in the U.S. Army that it had been properly declassified. The colonel asked me to pull it off the Web site. There was no more explanation than that. As a courtesy, and with an awareness of the danger U.S. forces are in, I had the photo pulled.
We are now returning the picture to this blog after Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman told reporters in a briefing today that he is unaware of any official Pentagon or military request to pull the photo off MSNBC.com or not to air the photo. I have also spoken to the military intelligence officers who gave me the photo and they say while there are now some internal debates about the release of the photograph, it's declassified and ours to broadcast and print on the Web.
So here is the photo -- again -- and a link to my original post from yesterday:
Photo courtesy: U.S. Army
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We catch hell if we don't follow the Geneva convention and play by all the rules. Then something like this comes along and people are second guessing the decision not to make the strike because its a funeral.
It's the old damned if you do and damned if you don't.
It's about time we gave these people a taste of thier own medicine. I guarantee you they would not have passed up the same opportunity if we presented such a target to them. They wouldn't have thought for two seconds before making the strike and thought nothing of it.
Bill, Boise, Idaho (Sent Sep 14, 2006 4:25:21 AM)
The person responsible for this decision should resign
or be removed.How many troops will suffer death or injury due to a lack of leadership?I bet the soldiers
who have to knock down doors and enter caves after
these terroists are real enthused over this decision.
This person should be in charge of supply.He is not fit to command and is a danger to his men.The same
terroists this person was so concerned about have bombed churches,funerals,hospitals,etc.They are too
smart to give us another opportunity like this.Is it any wonder we are bogged down with leadership like this.
Neil Hoag , Woodford , VT. (Sent Sep 14, 2006 2:51:50 AM)
This is our Achilles heel...we follow rules of engagement and just plain human decency but they don't! Read on please.....
Afghan governor's funeral bombed; 6 dead TANI, Afghanistan (AP) -- A suicide bomber struck Monday at a funeral for a provincial governor assassinated by the Taliban a day earlier, and four senior members of the government at the service escaped unhurt, officials and witnesses said. At least six people were killed and dozens were wounded.....The blast went off near a tent where more than 1,000 people had congregated.....
They take advantage of every ounce of our human decency, scorn us and use it against us!
Ann...Riverside, California (Sent Sep 14, 2006 12:50:24 AM)
Are we at war or not? Would any terrorist care if a group of Americans were at a funeral, or a football game, or in an office building? The answer is no. If we want to win this war we need to understand that casualties are part of the rules of engagement
KGMasta, OH (Sent Sep 13, 2006 11:34:32 PM)
Mr. Sanders - This story is hilarious. On the heels of ABC's 9/11 feature showing Bill Clinton's lack of a backbone in letting OBL get away, this was so predictable.
Thanks for the smiles.
Rick Garmin, Grand Rapids, MI (Sent Sep 13, 2006 10:53:06 PM)
Who showed this photo w/ the accompanying explanation to Kerry Sanders? In this crucial midterm election season, nothing happens without a reason. That is probably a bigger story than the original battlefield decision itself. The military's willingness to publish it with all the assertions of "following the rules" and being better than our enemies smacks of a little strategic public image polishing to me. If George W. Bush comes out in a day or so to defend the decision and state that we have to hold to a higher moral standard and he stands behind the decision because it was the right thing to do, we will know it was a setup of the first order... (remember Karl Rove?) Kerry Sanders himself said the story has taken a strange path, and has more layers than an onion....
(Sent Sep 13, 2006 10:32:53 PM)
After all the CRAP that we have been through with these so called militant's. I can not even imagine why we did not take advantage to destroy the group in the picture. Just what in the heck are we doing over there? Our so called commanders are making a mockery out of this and it is shameful to the fallen soldiers that we allowed an oppurtunity such as this to go pass. If we are not to engage the enemy and do what is the right thing, then we might as well pack it in and come home. I find this very frustating and unbleiveable. Shame on us for missing out and not doing the right thing. Boy this will help President Bush's agenda on reson for why we are at WAR. In the name of god please don't let another chance such as this go without action again!!! After all that has transpired in the conflict with the enemy. We should "GET ER DONE". This is going to be a bad mark on our agenda and will only let the enemy know that they don't need to hide from us and may do whatever they please. My message to the so called commanders is do your damn job and do it now. Total embarrasment to the war on terror for allowing this oppurtunity to just go by.
Lincoln D. (Sent Sep 13, 2006 10:30:25 PM)
If this a funeral and that's a picture of a cemetary....where is the casket!!!??? In the military truck perhaps?! And since when does everyone stand in formation at a funeral??? To hell with the rules of engagement. I don't believe that when they flew those civilian airliners into the twin towers, that they were sitting there saying..."Hmmm...now let's think about this...shouldn't we consider the rules of engagement"??? We are dealing with non-humans here.....we are bound to have collateral damage in a war....while we are worrying about bombing a funeral, they are bombing the hell out of our service men and women....not to mention the 3000 poor souls that died in 9/11....we would've never have won WWII if we would've acted so politically correct as we do now....we need to stop acting like pansies and start kicking butt!!!
Lisa L., Fairbanks, Alaska (Sent Sep 13, 2006 7:45:59 PM)
So many comments seem solely bent on killing, like some yet unfulfilled demand for death, for vengence. In terms of the public mood, I don't think that's a positive reflection of how well - or not - we're doing in Afghanistan. But after almost 5 years of U.S. occupation and war there, all we're left with debating is whether or not to obliterate a group of talibanies who are allegedly at a funeral?
These wars have become pathetic fodder for anti-Americanism. Thus, I don't think we should be bombing the taliban at funerals (although, there is a certain efficiency in that scenario, as real estate agents say "location, location, location").
Rich Rodriguez, Pompano Beach, FL (Sent Sep 13, 2006 6:15:26 PM)
MAN!!!!! That's just a bunch of Afghani's lining up for tickets to the Michael Jackson concert. First 200 in the front gate get a free CD
(Sent Sep 13, 2006 6:00:36 PM)
If they are Taliban how could it be any more easier to be at a funeral. I don't understand all these bleeding heart people that want to be so nice to these people that kill our Sons, Daughters, Husbands, Wives ect... And would shoot you without question if they had the chance. Rules of engagement are for respectable soldiers which these peices of garbage are not.
R.L. Green Bay, WI (Sent Sep 13, 2006 5:50:45 PM)
"Afghan governor's funeral hit by suicide bombing" yet another headline. I understand that if we have no "rules of engagement" that we are just as bad as the enemey. But look at the photo, yes, even though the quality is rather poor, however... DOES ANYONE SEE ANYTHING THAT RESEMBLES A CEMETERY???
Cat, Rochester, NY (Sent Sep 13, 2006 5:31:06 PM)
Wait just a minute. If we throw out the rules of engagement, then shouldn't we just throw out the Geneva Convention as well?
Oh that's right, we already have been violating the Geneva Convention. Never mind.
William Jefferson Clinton, Hope, Arkansas (Sent Sep 13, 2006 5:22:35 PM)
If pictures of the memorial services I attended for fallen friends in Vietnam were taken from 30,000 feet up, they would very much indeed look like a military formation. Also the foes we faced would not have hesitated a moment to take advantage if possible, as niether would we have.
Rex Stephenson Peru Ia (Sent Sep 13, 2006 4:50:04 PM)
I was wondering where the terrorists house their rules of engagement document against us?
Mat, Rome, New York (Sent Sep 13, 2006 4:21:58 PM)
Awh let's see here. Terrorists hijack airplanes in our country and kill over 3000 Americans, and we're concerned with killing 190 Terrorists with one shot? What's wrong with this scenerio?
Bill Banks, Florida (Sent Sep 13, 2006 3:54:12 PM)
I can cleary tell from this picture that there are no women and children here. Just look at their faces? Nothing but Taliban. And that truck? Only someone with Taliban ties would drive a truck. Just be careful that it is not one of our secret prisons! These people could provide valuable insight as to where Osama is hiding which would be lost if we attacked the group.
Neil Sackett, Boston MA (Sent Sep 13, 2006 3:27:29 PM)
If this photo is what it purports to be, how can we ever expect to win this war if we can't bring ourselves to fire upon the enemy because they are at a funeral?
Whoever drafted this rule of engagement should be dishonourably discharged from the military. Failure to take the enemy out in this situation will only result in the deaths of more American soldiers.
I'm sure the enemy will start holding all their gatherings at "funerals" here on out. At least until this myopic rule of engagement is modified or done away with.
Peter, Washington, D.C. (Sent Sep 13, 2006 3:20:17 PM)
For those of you who feel that like actions deserve like actions (i.e. they don't fight fair so we shouldn't) that's fine. Now you have to convince all the left wing, the government is throwing out the constitution pundits. Attacking that site and acting in an eye for an eye manner is no different than secret wiretaps, prisoner camps, profiling and adjustin g the rules as the situation requires. That being said, we do have rules of engagement and that is a prime example that the president can't do whatever he wants, whenever he wants.
James C. Rickett, Fl (Sent Sep 13, 2006 3:19:36 PM)
This is the reason we will lose these wars. The rules of war have changed and we need to adapt. If we're not going to fight like them, then don't fight at all.
(Sent Sep 13, 2006 3:04:22 PM)
it's a black and white picture taken at 20-30k feet folks, they could all be wearing rainbow colored jumpsuits and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. And who's to say that's a funeral, looks like a military formation to me. They should have launched two hellfires into that mass.
(Sent Sep 13, 2006 2:25:41 PM)
That looks suspiciously like a military formation with a leader out front (near the truck). Doe's the Taliban operate like this???
But hey, I'm not a high paid Intel type making this call...
Tony Gomez, Baton Rouge, LA (Sent Sep 13, 2006 1:45:31 PM)
There's something unconvincing about this reconnaissance image.Firstly the quality of the image and the apparent uniformity of the clothing which as most know isn't a Taliban trademark.
Probably just a bunch of Pakistani soldiers getting reprimanded for getting to close to catching Bin. Laden.
B.H. (Sent Sep 13, 2006 12:53:29 PM)
Kerry...I really enjoy seeing your reports. You bring out a lot of the story...makes me feel like I am there! Thank you for your faithfulness!
Karen Castevens, Mount Airy, NC (Sent Sep 13, 2006 12:26:25 PM)
Kerry, I admire your dedication to this story. I also want to say that it is nice to know that there are responsible journalist, like yourself, who find the dangers of this country and our American soldiers seriously enough to consider them over the story. Thank you for your integrety. Cudos for doing the right thing.
Missy, Slidell, LA (Sent Sep 13, 2006 11:54:48 AM)
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